Further! Just writing in, to follow through on what I said. (That I would write more later). I’m in Phnom Penh right now. It’s really hot. I’ts been interesting circling back here to reconnect with Akira again (hi!), and to have a couple of funny casual bumping-into events with acquaintances from the time I used to be here (so that would be 2014-2017). I’m not really *not* here, I mean, I realize now that Cambodia will be one of our ‘base homes,’ which is a strange thing to note, because…Cambodia! Isn’t my home, isn’t Akira’s…. But maybe home is where you feel at ease, find community, and most importantly, where there is work to do. That looks different for everyone, doesn’ it? Work to do. Collaboration and frictionless coexistence being at the forefront of my thinking these last 8 weeks, I have a couple of closing comments I think, on this topic. Mostly, you have to really want to work with someone to work with them, actually. Like marriage. You have to actually *like* the person, or company leader, or group leader, or whomever it is that is holding the vision together. Ther is a leadership color test (Akira, what was that called?) that you can actually see what your color type is, and know how to balance where you are deficient with where others are better). I’m not that great with organization, sorry about that!, so that might be why you feel the jumble of the conversation here, in the different formats and spaces… But also… I think now I will put on the hat that is more Engineer, and turn towards the last four weeks with our continuing circle in a different sort of style. I’ll be happy to talk more to you about this off-thread, if you are curious. There are ways to work with each of you, I am learning, in various pacing and channels. I think it’s kind of like that, you just have to let things happen, right? We started off here talking about work. And how some big companies don’t listen enough to the employees and what they are saying. I am learning, here, that sometimes the hardest part of getting the employers to listen might just be the fact that we don’t know how to tell them what we really want. I guess that’s true of a lot of relationships. We have to be clear, don’t we? About what we want out of the collaboration. Maybe it’s cooking a meal together. Maybe i’ts building a software app. But in either case, we have to be clear, about what we are looking to get from it, I think. Or maybe not. Maybe you just have to really love cooking or really love software-building. And then you can sort of get what you want from the loving-it of the process, rather than the politics of working with others. Or maybe it makes it more bearable? I’m not sure, quite, where this thread is going. I wonder where you all are tonight (it’s 5:33PM where I am), and if you are happy to write into this space, you’re most welcome to! I’ll be closing the comments soon for the 8-week section’s forum-spaces, which includes this one, and ‘Journeys.’ So please stop by there and share as you wish, if you wish, or collect the bits you wanted to note. Notes! Collaboratively and independently, notes, and noting, and sharing, and thinking, and writing, sometimes, and… Reflecting. Is that it? Is that where it begins? Finding out what you want, then how to communicate it, then be sure to tell the people who are in charge of making it that, yeah, ‘I want these things.’ And know them, clearly, and outline them, so that the thing that you want to design gets designed. I think most employers, I think?, really don’t know how to ask… So we have to help them… And if they say, ‘no,’ then maybe we should… Find new people to try collaborations with. Or?